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Molim za pomoć...

 

Pokušavam složiti konfu za rad u ArchiCad-u 15, koliko kužim treba mi dobra grafička (profi, ali ne gamerska), mulicore procesor, min 6GB Ram-a. S cijenom mogu ići do cca 6000kn ne trebam periferiju ni monitor.

 

Preporuke ArchiCada za nesmetan rad su Win7 x64, multicore proc, 6-8GB Rama, Grafička NVidia Quadro FX (Open GL, DirectX 9), ne preporučuju NVidia Quadro NVS, Ati FireMV, niti gamerske kartice Sapphire, Gigabyte i sl.)

 

Svaka pomoć dobrodošla. Hvala unaprijed.

 

Evo nekog mog složenca :D

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ibugger kaže...

Molim za pomoć...

 

Pokušavam složiti konfu za rad u ArchiCad-u 15, koliko kužim treba mi dobra grafička (profi, ali ne gamerska), mulicore procesor, min 6GB Ram-a. S cijenom mogu ići do cca 6000kn ne trebam periferiju ni monitor.

 

Preporuke ArchiCada za nesmetan rad su Win7 x64, multicore proc, 6-8GB Rama, Grafička NVidia Quadro FX (Open GL, DirectX 9), ne preporučuju NVidia Quadro NVS, Ati FireMV, niti gamerske kartice Sapphire, Gigabyte i sl.)

 

Svaka pomoć dobrodošla. Hvala unaprijed.

 

Evo nekog mog složenca :D

Pa i GTX460 je gamerska grafa.

 

edit: evo ti sa Quadro grafickom,ako ces se baviti ArchCadom.'

 

sto se tice napajanja ima ga i previse,al eto stavio sam da imas za ubuduce nadogradnje.

 

Quadro modeli su uzasno skupi.

25000Kn; FX5800, FX2000=3800Kn

 

 

edit:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/tetst1.jpg/

 

identicni rezultatikao HD6850,pa uzmi onda HD6850 il GTX460 da mi pored rada u ArchCad igrao i igre :)

Intel Core i7 2600K @ 3.4GHz | Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD7-B3 | ASUS nVIDIA GeForce GTX580 | WD Caviar Black 2TB 7k SATA600 | 6GB DDR3 2000MHz "Kingston HyperX" | Samsung S
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Mislim da ćeš teško naci profi grafe za te novce.

Mislim da je najjeftinija takva grafa oko 1000€ (firegl) a quadro je još skuplja o toga.

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amater_2 kaže...

Mislim da ćeš teško naci profi grafe za te novce.

Mislim da je najjeftinija takva grafa oko 1000€ (firegl) a quadro je još skuplja o toga.

A i nije bas..

http://www.nabava.net/trazilica.php?tp=0&q=nvidia+quadro+fx

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amater_2 kaže...

Mislim da ćeš teško naci profi grafe za te novce.

Mislim da je najjeftinija takva grafa oko 1000€ (firegl) a quadro je još skuplja o toga.

Nije, da se naći i za stotinjak eura (quadro), samo nema razloga ići na profesionalnu mašinu ako ti to nije (isključivo) alat za rad. Dovoljna će biti bilo koja grafika, samo neće imati akceleraciju nekih funkcija, što i nije neki problem... Trebalo bi možda malo proguglati kako stoje stvari s moddanjem mainstream grafike u FireGL/Quadro, ali stvarno mislim da to nije nužno (pod pretpostavkom da je OP student kojem sve to treba za faks i još poneku stvar mimo njega ;).

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Ne, nisam student, konfa ce ići za rad doma, jer se dobilo otkaz -.-

 

Kako bi ova išla na to:

HP - NVIDIAQuadroFX600 1GB Graphics WS093AA

 

za HP je radjena ili već što pa je moguće jeftinija? (1227 kn)

 

hvala na odgovorima!

 

NVIDIAQuadroFX600 1GB Graphics WS093AA


Basic Specifications

Manufacturer's Part Number WS093AA

Product Description NVIDIA Quadro 600 - graphics adapter - Quadro 600 - 1 GB

Device Type Graphics adapter

Enclosure Type Plug-in card - low profile

Interface Type PCI Express 2.0 x16

Graphics Processor / Vendor NVIDIA Quadro 600 API Supported DirectX 11, OpenGL 4.0

Video Output 2560 x 1600 30-bit colour

Manufacturer Warranty 1 year warranty

System Requirements Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Red Hat Enterprise Linux WS 4, SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11, Microsoft Windows Vista Business (32/64 bits), Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5, Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Video Memory 1 GB - GDDR3 SDRAM

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Da, GTX sam tu samo radi nekakvog okvira oko cijene... al vidim sad bi quadro bilo dost skuplje. al ne bas svaka, mozda mi i ova FX600 bude išla ok.

 

Mozda ne vidim dobro, al to tu kao da je 2GB Ram-a?

 

 

 

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Pogledaj joj malo specifikacije: link!

To je GPU od 150 US dolara, 128-bitna grafa, ima memorijsku propusnost od samo 25 GB/s (za usporedbu jedna GTX550 Ti gamerska koja košta toliko) ima 192-bita i 98 GB/s.

Pa ti računaj..:\

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Pro vs Gaming

 

Archicad

 

http://archicadwiki.com/VideoCardsForArchiCAD15?action=show&redirect=Video+Cards#General_Video_card_requirements_for_ArchiCAD_15

 

(neda mi pasteat text, iako ga pasteam kao plain :/)

 

obzirom na testiranje mogla bi ici i gamerska ... nis ja vise ne kuzim

 

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/test2ypn.jpg/

 

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/tetst1.jpg/

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ibugger kaže...

Pro vs Gaming

 

Archicad

 

http://archicadwiki.com/VideoCardsForArchiCAD15?action=show&redirect=Video+Cards#General_Video_card_requirements_for_ArchiCAD_15

 

(neda mi pasteat text, iako ga pasteam kao plain :/)

 

obzirom na testiranje mogla bi ici i gamerska ... nis ja vise ne kuzim

 

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/test2ypn.jpg/

 

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/tetst1.jpg/

Nepostoji kao "gamerska" grafa. Ne sputavaj se time. 

Jednostavno su quadro grafe bas ciljaju na poslovne korisnike, a ove "gamerske" su za sve.

Ali dobra gamerska ce mozda biti bolja od neke profesionalne tako da se ne sputavas time gamerska, ne gamerska.

 

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Čitao sam danas dosta toga, i ima razloga zašto su jedne pro a druge gamerske... samo me cijena malo cima :D

 

"Professional" vs. "Gaming" video cards

Graphic card manufacturers typically have different product lines targeted for "gamers" and "professional users".

While the hardware setup is very similar in case of both cards, there are key differences in their firmware and driver.

"Gamer" cards (such as Nvidia GeForce and Ati Radeon) are optimized for 3D games, where speed is more important than image quality.

Typically a 3D model in a game contains a low number of polygons with textures applied to them, while in CAD polygon count is high, and the quality of the still image of the wireframe or shaded model is more important than navigation speed. Also, professional cards' memory usage is optimized for using multiple application windows, while in gaming this is not relevant.

Another key difference between the two product lines is the way they are delivered and supported. Professional cards (such as Nvidia Quadro and ATi FireGL) are built according to the video chip manufacturer's references, so you can always be sure that the driver delivered by the video chip manufacturer (e.g. Nvidia or ATI) fits your card. The manufacturers of gaming cards (such as ASUS, Sapphire, Gigabyte, PNY, etc...) may diverge from the chip manufacturer's references, so their drivers may not be compatible with the chip manufacturer's reference driver. Also, the product life cycle and driver release cycles are much shorter in case of gaming cards.

Graphisoft cooperates with Nvidia to test and certify video card drivers for the Nvidia Quadro FX series. This product line is recommended by Graphisoft for ArchiCAD 15.

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Čitao sam danas dosta toga, i ima razloga zašto su jedne pro a druge gamerske... samo me cijena malo cima :D

 

"Professional" vs. "Gaming" video cards

Graphic card manufacturers typically have different product lines targeted for "gamers" and "professional users".

While the hardware setup is very similar in case of both cards, there are key differences in their firmware and driver.

"Gamer" cards (such as Nvidia GeForce and Ati Radeon) are optimized for 3D games, where speed is more important than image quality.

Typically a 3D model in a game contains a low number of polygons with textures applied to them, while in CAD polygon count is high, and the quality of the still image of the wireframe or shaded model is more important than navigation speed. Also, professional cards' memory usage is optimized for using multiple application windows, while in gaming this is not relevant.

Another key difference between the two product lines is the way they are delivered and supported. Professional cards (such as Nvidia Quadro and ATi FireGL) are built according to the video chip manufacturer's references, so you can always be sure that the driver delivered by the video chip manufacturer (e.g. Nvidia or ATI) fits your card. The manufacturers of gaming cards (such as ASUS, Sapphire, Gigabyte, PNY, etc...) may diverge from the chip manufacturer's references, so their drivers may not be compatible with the chip manufacturer's reference driver. Also, the product life cycle and driver release cycles are much shorter in case of gaming cards.

Graphisoft cooperates with Nvidia to test and certify video card drivers for the Nvidia Quadro FX series. This product line is recommended by Graphisoft for ArchiCAD 15.

Kad već imaš volju pogledaj malo i ovo, možda ti pomogne. Inače prije par mjeseci sam i sam dvojio okod kupnje računala za ured (6 komada) na kraju smo kupili HP-ove Workstation Z400 s Nvidia Quadro grafičkom karticom (koja je koštala cca 1000). Na računalima koristimo AutoCAD .

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U mom uskoro bivšem uredu AutoCAD se vrti na hp workstationima starim 5 godina i sve je ok, a ArchiCad je zadao dosta muke, mi smo radili na Z600 (kupljeno prosle godine za ArchiCad 12 čini mi se ili 11) i bilo je ok jedno vrijeme, a sad na ArchiCadu 15 već šteka opasno. Grafička je u tim Z600 neka Nvidia Quadro ali ne znam koja, morat ću pogledat.

 

Z400 mi nije dovoljno a bez grafičke najjeftinije je 10.000kn

 

HP Z400 KK642EA W3550/6GB/1TB/DVDRW/Win7 Pro-64 Z400,CMT, Intel Xeon W3550 (3.06GHz, 8MB cache), 6GB (3x2 DDR3-1333 ECC), 1000GB SATA 7200, No Graphic, SATA DVD+/-RW Dual-Layer SuperMulti Drive, Media Card Reader, Win 7 Pro 64bit

 

ako u to ubacim NvidiaQuadroFX580 512MB 1200 kn

 

11.200,00 - za te novce puno bolje mogu složiti, zato i idem na nekakav složenac.

 

Hvala na linku, definitino idem na quadro fx.

 
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11.200,00 - za te novce puno bolje mogu složiti, zato i idem na nekakav složenac.

 

Hvala na linku, definitino idem na quadro fx.

 I? Jesi složio štogod?

:O

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Kanta 6145kn + Nvidia Quadro FX580 1200kn


Probam srediti bez pdv-a (da ide na firmu) i onda me dodje 5971,00kn {#}

 

 

Hvala svima na pomoći!

 

 
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Jer ti ta matična podržava triple chanel ili što?

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Za rad Archicadu nije uopce nuzna profi grafička kartica, ako si koristio Archicad onda znas da kada stvari postanu sporije od magle nije do grafičke.

Radije vise potrosi na procesor i ram nego na grafičku ako te zanima fluidan rad, sto se samog Archicada tice.

 

U uredu je npr. winXP 32bit, 4gb ram, core2quad 9450 (12mb), ati 4670 jeftinjak, nista ne steka u Archicadu 15 za openGL ili internal engine sto se tice 3d prikaza (2d nikad ne steka, osim kada je bilo manje rama na vecim projektima i uvezenim acad podlogama).

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ne podržava {#}

 

Onda trebam 2x4GB (510kn) ili može i 4x4GB (1020kn) Corsair?

 

3x4GB SuperTalent = 940kn

 

da li je neakva velika razlika u proizvodjačima RAM-a, tipa corsair i STAlent, ili mozda bolje netko treći?

 

 

hvala još jednom

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Corsair ftw{#}

btw Uzmi slobodno 4x4GB memorije ako imaš ofcorse 64-bit Windows

http://www.adm.hr/product_info.php?cPath=258_217_160_246&products_id=10051

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